Gentlemen, thank you all for your most interesting and very kind comments!

Let's see what'll happen on Tuesday...

Today the banks of the Elbe must have been crowded with spectators. All afternoon the radio reported heavy traffic jams between Cranz and Grünendeich south of the scene and at Hetlingen on the north side. And I thought it was crowded yesterday!:-))

Cheers and my best wishes for all,
Jens

Thank you for this link Pietro!!

Live on cam: http://www.elbdeichcam.de/
Regards Peter

I think you are right Capt Ted. In the Doria's case as the fuel tanks emptied there was no compensating ballast.

@ Becky,, don,t know that,,but in those days stability was not very good understood. Todays problems with stability is mainly ignorance and poorly trained and under qualified crew, like that Deneb J incident in Bilbao ?

Capt Ted well explained. I agree there are just some basics of stability that one does not mess around with.If I recall correctly the Andrea Doria's problems were compounded by the fact she started to pump ballast out before her intended arrival in New York

Anyone knows about the situation on the stability ? I ask because I read they took off the bunker fuel and than also some ballast. That could lead easily to a soft ship (top heavy) and prone to list much easier then normal which in turn could give a problem once the ship comes free. Taking container off from deck might be the better option.

@PHa,, actually the newer the ship, that bigger the problems. Special electronics and such. What wonders me personally,, they build a ship for 150 mio and carrying cargoes possibly passing the 1 billion mark and there is seemingly no secondary system which takes over when the first goes, special on a rudder

There will be of course a possibility to steer the ship by manual steering from below, but that switch over time is at least 5-10 min, for something like this way to long. The rudder itself usually does not malfunction it,s more the electronic sensors or the rudder engine motor. A separate backup system which kicks automatic in when the first goes could be a option or perhaps should be ?

great shot Jens

Anchor chain broken! Rudder malfunction! Brand new ship!
What comes next?
Regards Peter

Hi Jens. Nice shot and quality. Interesting and detailed. At the right place. Yes my friend if failure with the rudder are confirmed, nothing to blame on crew or pilot until further investigations...wait and see. Congratulations for another nice shot ( as usual)
MBregards.
ventuari

Thank you Clyde and Volker. Clyde, I think I'll survive that you didn't click the button:-))

Yes Sulzer, I've read that she lost her anchor (and chain) while at anchorage west of Helgoland on February 2nd before she was entering the Elbe...

Antonio, if it turns out to be true that there was a failure of the rudder then at least one can't blame crew or pilot I guess... but we'll see.

Volker, I'll keep my fingers crossed, too.

kind regards,
Jens

Lost the rightside anchor with chain? ...

Good shot Jens! We will hope the best at tuesday.

Good capture Jens. I knew it was one of yours as soon as I saw the full frame shot. I like it, but did bot bother to click the Like button

A giant struggling now responsibilities where this error will be.
Regards Antonio.