@ MK,,,and where I state that everything from ASIA/USA is good.
A fact is that brasilian vessels did not have longevity, for what reasons one can discuss
USA has most probably, beside inland tugs and pusher tugs no idea how to build ships. And China is still today 60-80 low quality junk.
brgds
capt ted

Like many countries Brazil has had better and worse yards. In the 70s and 80s CCN Mauá, Ishibras and Verolme/Brasil were certainly building good ships - but some of the the others were scratching around a bit, often building ships for Grade 2 owners - I've always suspected that the best production engineers, managers and shipyard workers gravitated to the first three.

It was a nightmare for private domestic owners and shipyards to work in the economic and political chaos (and corruption) of 1980s Brazil. The state-owned Lloyd Brasileiro was a basket case, but Aliança was probably the best of the private companies. I suspect that FLAMENGO was a casualty of the containerisation of the main Brazilian trades in the 1980s. Plenty of half-life break-bulk cargo liners went to early scrapping in that era.

By the mid 1990s it was difficult for small liner companies anywhere to afford the investment needed for deep sea container service and it was only in 1998 that Oetker bought the company from Grupo Fischer, primarily for access to Brazilian coastal trades.

Capt Peter
Alianca went also bust,,is since years only a subsidy from H-Sued. when H-Sued bought it, they had a requirement that they had to keep some ships brazilian flags and Alianca as
manager in order to keep the whole gov-alianca business

Ciao capt Peter e un po che non ci sentiamo bella questa foto di un'epoca ormai passata dove le navi costruite erano
riconoscibili dai cantieri dove venivano varate a presto
ciao da milano
GP

Hi Capt Ted,

well, Brazil built is probably not the best reputation for longevity, ... but the owner did not bust, - Aliança is still existing. See here: full power.

http://www.alianca.com.br/alianca/en/alianca/

brgds
Capt Peter

Hi peter

nope,,15 years was nothing,, but she was builded in Brasil,, a lot of those builded there,, did not make it long, or the owners went bust, see for that also the Recalada pilot station,,argentinian build and also taken out of business rather soon

Hi Capt Ted,
thanks, but I believe she was not a very lucky ship. Built 1971 and already scrapped in 1986 in China. 15 years was no age for a ship in these days.

brgds
Capt Peter

Nice shot of this old ship from Alianca